I lvoe your ted talk. I really like how you picked a topic based on your own experiences, and how you used your own examples as well as scientific ones.
It’s personal, your TED Talk, and you draw upon real experiences, like TED talks on TED do, and I like that. I like how your explored many aspects of this one thing, and how it was scientific too.
This is a very well researched and personally relevant topic. Any research being done on the underlying causes? For example, are there any significant brain differences in children with ODD? Is there a genetic link at all? Love to hear more about this, Louise. Your talk addresses many of the behaviours and therapeutic solutions. What are some of the side effects of the medications?
QMtK
Ms. Mulder
Like how few people know about ODD, surprisingly little research has been done on it compared to other disorders like ADHD, but it has been picking up in recent years. Researchers have found subtle abnormality in the children’s prefrontal cortex which is where the moderation of correct social behavior happens but findings are still inconsistent and more research needs to be done. ODD seems to occur more often in families with histories of behavioral disorders such as ADHD, mood disorders and substance abuse, so most researchers agree that genetics play a part but nothing solid has been found yet.
Not everyone react the same way to the drugs, but commons side effects include:
- Weight gain (10-30lbs in children)
- Tremors, stiffness, restlessness (aka drug induced Parkinsons)
- High cholesterol and triglycerides
- Low blood pressure
- Movement disorder called Tardive Dyskinesia, a involuntary, smooth, repetitive and rhythmic movement of a part the body such as chewing, grimacing, lip smacking etc
Hey Louise! I find that the way you present your topic is very unique to they ways others have presented theirs. I enjoy how you employ personal experiences and examples to give background information on the subject. Instead of just giving a “template” you fill us in on the details and how they surface in real life situations.
Another thing I feel worked well is (whether you intended to make it so) that your examples are easy to relate to. Our own memories give much better proof or examples than anything anyone else can say. Once someone (me ) makes the connection between you saying “He would scream and cry…” and something they saw/experienced it implants a very strong argument/point in the viewers brain. In my opinion a very effective way to get your point across.
Lastly, I remember being told during a leadership session at my church. The speaker at the seminar, told us when applying necessary punishment that the punishment must be related to the “crime”. For example if a child was hurting other kids during play time, to ban the child from eating lunch with the rest isn’t a logical punishment. Banning the child from play time for a day is a much more logical punishment, from my experiences with kids with ODD (at a Winter Conference where I was a leader in the Children’s Program) that seemed to work better when getting children to comply.
I loved how you picked such a personal topic. It was awesome that you used relevant examples because it made it seem like you had a genuine interest in the topic.
I liked how you mentioned the difference between ODD and how a regular child would behave. With disorders like ODD and ADD there always seems be a bit of a blurry line between the actions of a typical child and those of a child with a behavioral disorder. I was wondering how difficult it is to diagnose someone who has ODD? It would be pretty easy to just brush it off as typical childish behavior, or perhaps parenting issues. With your brother, when was the point that your family thought it was more than him just behaving as a child would?
Also, how often do you think things like ODD and ADD get wrongly diagnosed? It would seem easy to jump to the conclusion that the child has a behavioral disorder, where it may actually be a number of different things.
Derek:
Yes, the punishment should have some sort of link to the misbehavior, but sometime that can be difficult. Children with ODD often blame others for causing them to make mistakes, or just don’t think they did anything wrong at all. So the most important part is having the patience and taking the time to explain to them what they did incorrectly and why they are receiving punishment. If the punishment is related to their “crime”, then it makes the explaining easier because it’s logical which in turns makes it easier for the child to accept. So I agree that the punishment should be somehow related to the misbehavior.
Chelsea:
Yes, it’s is actually pretty difficult to tell if it’s just typical childish behavior or ODD if you haven’t been with the child for a while. It’s really when you’re with the child for 24/7 over a long period of time that you start noticing how common the tantrums really are or how unreasonable the child is constantly being. So it’s not really about the actions it’s more about how often it happens. And parenting issues do actually contribute to ODD, bad parenting can cause ODD to worsen or even be one of the many causes of ODD. A majority of the non-medical treatments also rely on parenting skills and how they respond and interact with the child. When psychiatrist diagnose children with ODD, they actually spend more time talking to family members, teachers and caregivers etc then the child itself. To have ODD you have to have the problems for more then six months and these problems have to seriously affect the child’s day to day life so they gathers many different people’s perspective about how the severe and frequent these problems occur.
As for my brother, my mom was pretty worried about him ever since he was a baby, he cried more, woke up more during the night then both me and my sister, then as he got older, the crazy out of control tantrums he throws everywhere. People actually thought my mom was kidnapping him when he has tantrums at the mall, that was how bad it was. My mom’s talked to our family physician about it a couple of times about it but she was reluctant to do anything about because Jason was so young and really most people chalk it up as typical childish stuff. Then my brother started school, pre-school was okay, but in kindergarten which this year, he ended up with the no-non-sense-kind of teacher. And that doesn’t work very well with children with ODD, they’ll feel like they have to be oppositional and defiant every time the teacher told him to do something. They were both the type that HAD to get their way, so the teacher yelled at Jason and Jason yelled right back. It gotten to the stage where my mom had to see the principal every couple of days and all his teachers, principal and counselors had to have meeting about Jason, that our family physician sent us to a pediatric specialist which then in turn told us to see both a psychologist and psychiatrist.
Perhaps it’s often that ODD gets wrongly diagnosed but it’s not like an acute disease or anything. You won’t die if you were wrongly diagnosed or even not diagnosed at all and over half of the kids outgrow it eventually. So to me I honestly think being diagnosed just helps the family understands why their child is so unwilling to listen and how they can help.
Hey louise, very cool TED talk! I’m wondering.. do you know if there are any links between gifted kids and ODD kids? My older brother, who appears to be gifted had this disorder and your brother (probably gifted? lots of siblings are) has it too. Also, have you noticed a difference in behavior with your brother with parents/authoritative figures and people who are teenagers or kids who speak to him on a more equal level? Or is it a physical appearance thing where he sees someone more grown up looking and doesn’t want to listen to them?
-immy
Wow.
First of all, and I feel really lame saying this because everyone else said the same thing, but I really liked how you picked a topic that was close to your heart and that you could relate to.
When you talked about tantrums, that was probably something we could all relate to. I know I could.
Do you know why ODD almost always comes with another neural-psychotic disorder? That seems odd to me so I’m slightly curious about that.
I especially liked how you ended with your feelings about the misconception that kids with ODD are
“difficult and nasty”, and I thought it was sweet how you back up your arguments with things your brother’s done. I also loved how you called it a test of love and patience.
Anyway, great TED Talk.
June 17, 2011 at 1:53 pm
I lvoe your ted talk. I really like how you picked a topic based on your own experiences, and how you used your own examples as well as scientific ones.
June 18, 2011 at 10:41 am
It’s personal, your TED Talk, and you draw upon real experiences, like TED talks on TED do, and I like that. I like how your explored many aspects of this one thing, and how it was scientific too.
June 18, 2011 at 3:37 pm
This is a very well researched and personally relevant topic. Any research being done on the underlying causes? For example, are there any significant brain differences in children with ODD? Is there a genetic link at all? Love to hear more about this, Louise. Your talk addresses many of the behaviours and therapeutic solutions. What are some of the side effects of the medications?
QMtK
June 18, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Ms. Mulder
Like how few people know about ODD, surprisingly little research has been done on it compared to other disorders like ADHD, but it has been picking up in recent years. Researchers have found subtle abnormality in the children’s prefrontal cortex which is where the moderation of correct social behavior happens but findings are still inconsistent and more research needs to be done. ODD seems to occur more often in families with histories of behavioral disorders such as ADHD, mood disorders and substance abuse, so most researchers agree that genetics play a part but nothing solid has been found yet.
Not everyone react the same way to the drugs, but commons side effects include:
- Weight gain (10-30lbs in children)
- Tremors, stiffness, restlessness (aka drug induced Parkinsons)
- High cholesterol and triglycerides
- Low blood pressure
- Movement disorder called Tardive Dyskinesia, a involuntary, smooth, repetitive and rhythmic movement of a part the body such as chewing, grimacing, lip smacking etc
June 19, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Hey Louise! I find that the way you present your topic is very unique to they ways others have presented theirs. I enjoy how you employ personal experiences and examples to give background information on the subject. Instead of just giving a “template” you fill us in on the details and how they surface in real life situations.
Another thing I feel worked well is (whether you intended to make it so) that your examples are easy to relate to. Our own memories give much better proof or examples than anything anyone else can say. Once someone (me
) makes the connection between you saying “He would scream and cry…” and something they saw/experienced it implants a very strong argument/point in the viewers brain. In my opinion a very effective way to get your point across.
Lastly, I remember being told during a leadership session at my church. The speaker at the seminar, told us when applying necessary punishment that the punishment must be related to the “crime”. For example if a child was hurting other kids during play time, to ban the child from eating lunch with the rest isn’t a logical punishment. Banning the child from play time for a day is a much more logical punishment, from my experiences with kids with ODD (at a Winter Conference where I was a leader in the Children’s Program) that seemed to work better when getting children to comply.
-Derek
June 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm
I loved how you picked such a personal topic. It was awesome that you used relevant examples because it made it seem like you had a genuine interest in the topic.
I liked how you mentioned the difference between ODD and how a regular child would behave. With disorders like ODD and ADD there always seems be a bit of a blurry line between the actions of a typical child and those of a child with a behavioral disorder. I was wondering how difficult it is to diagnose someone who has ODD? It would be pretty easy to just brush it off as typical childish behavior, or perhaps parenting issues. With your brother, when was the point that your family thought it was more than him just behaving as a child would?
Also, how often do you think things like ODD and ADD get wrongly diagnosed? It would seem easy to jump to the conclusion that the child has a behavioral disorder, where it may actually be a number of different things.
Awesome job!
June 19, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Derek:
Yes, the punishment should have some sort of link to the misbehavior, but sometime that can be difficult. Children with ODD often blame others for causing them to make mistakes, or just don’t think they did anything wrong at all. So the most important part is having the patience and taking the time to explain to them what they did incorrectly and why they are receiving punishment. If the punishment is related to their “crime”, then it makes the explaining easier because it’s logical which in turns makes it easier for the child to accept. So I agree that the punishment should be somehow related to the misbehavior.
June 19, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Chelsea:
Yes, it’s is actually pretty difficult to tell if it’s just typical childish behavior or ODD if you haven’t been with the child for a while. It’s really when you’re with the child for 24/7 over a long period of time that you start noticing how common the tantrums really are or how unreasonable the child is constantly being. So it’s not really about the actions it’s more about how often it happens. And parenting issues do actually contribute to ODD, bad parenting can cause ODD to worsen or even be one of the many causes of ODD. A majority of the non-medical treatments also rely on parenting skills and how they respond and interact with the child. When psychiatrist diagnose children with ODD, they actually spend more time talking to family members, teachers and caregivers etc then the child itself. To have ODD you have to have the problems for more then six months and these problems have to seriously affect the child’s day to day life so they gathers many different people’s perspective about how the severe and frequent these problems occur.
As for my brother, my mom was pretty worried about him ever since he was a baby, he cried more, woke up more during the night then both me and my sister, then as he got older, the crazy out of control tantrums he throws everywhere. People actually thought my mom was kidnapping him when he has tantrums at the mall, that was how bad it was. My mom’s talked to our family physician about it a couple of times about it but she was reluctant to do anything about because Jason was so young and really most people chalk it up as typical childish stuff. Then my brother started school, pre-school was okay, but in kindergarten which this year, he ended up with the no-non-sense-kind of teacher. And that doesn’t work very well with children with ODD, they’ll feel like they have to be oppositional and defiant every time the teacher told him to do something. They were both the type that HAD to get their way, so the teacher yelled at Jason and Jason yelled right back. It gotten to the stage where my mom had to see the principal every couple of days and all his teachers, principal and counselors had to have meeting about Jason, that our family physician sent us to a pediatric specialist which then in turn told us to see both a psychologist and psychiatrist.
Perhaps it’s often that ODD gets wrongly diagnosed but it’s not like an acute disease or anything. You won’t die if you were wrongly diagnosed or even not diagnosed at all and over half of the kids outgrow it eventually. So to me I honestly think being diagnosed just helps the family understands why their child is so unwilling to listen and how they can help.
June 20, 2011 at 12:10 am
Hey louise, very cool TED talk! I’m wondering.. do you know if there are any links between gifted kids and ODD kids? My older brother, who appears to be gifted had this disorder and your brother (probably gifted? lots of siblings are) has it too. Also, have you noticed a difference in behavior with your brother with parents/authoritative figures and people who are teenagers or kids who speak to him on a more equal level? Or is it a physical appearance thing where he sees someone more grown up looking and doesn’t want to listen to them?
-immy
June 20, 2011 at 6:53 am
Wow.
First of all, and I feel really lame saying this because everyone else said the same thing, but I really liked how you picked a topic that was close to your heart and that you could relate to.
When you talked about tantrums, that was probably something we could all relate to. I know I could.
Do you know why ODD almost always comes with another neural-psychotic disorder? That seems odd to me so I’m slightly curious about that.
I especially liked how you ended with your feelings about the misconception that kids with ODD are
“difficult and nasty”, and I thought it was sweet how you back up your arguments with things your brother’s done. I also loved how you called it a test of love and patience.
Anyway, great TED Talk.